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john75
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:45:36 AM
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Hi, has anyone tried this method to cure or at least decrease their tinnitus to an unnoticeable level? i purchased and downloaded this manual in March of this year, after having had tinnitus for a number of weeks and depression was begining to set in so i thought "what the hell, it cant do any harm!!!
It is rather a complex holistic method of treating your whole body and will involve quite a bit of discipline, i actually forgot that i bought this as at the time my head was all over the place and only rediscovered it in my documents last night!!
i am willing to try anything but just wondered if anyone has had any experience good or bad by using this method???
Amanda
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:54:26 AM
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Is it an ebook which you have downloaded? I haven't seen it, or tried it. On the interent it says what the chapters of the ebook contain, and says the earlier chapters are to help establish what might be causing your tinnitus, so that you can follow the treatment plan which suits your most likely cause. Are you thinking of doing this as well as an Anti candida diet? Does this ebook mention following an anti candida as part of the treatment plan.
Carlover
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:36:51 PM
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Hello john, having I think seen the chapter headings somewhere ,hasnt this guy just told his readers to do everything from relaxation to chiro, to this and that and eventually all will come good?

This book is an affiliate programme internet marketing thing I believe?
Mr Micro
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:44:15 PM
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Hi John ,
I think that most of the information in this ebook can be easily accessed over the net or in otology / homeopathic textbooks.
It is more of a money making scam which is no more useful than a little effort of personal research into tinnitus and not even close to a miracle.
If you wanted to put your money to good use understanding tinnitus at a fairly complex level with information from across much of the latest scientific research I suggest you read the site below on the latest publication and latest research manual in tinnitus.
<a href="http://www.tinnitusresearch.org/en/news/pdfs/TRI%20Newsletter%201410.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.tinnitusresearch.org/en/news/pdfs/TRI%20Newsletter%201410.pdf</a>

Hope this helps &amp; best regards.
SM16
#5 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 2:36:23 AM
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well if you have already parted with the cash, you could give some of the suggestions a try. but as has already been stated......tinnitus miracle is a scam. the information is readily available for free online.

it is indeed an affiliate marketing scam. the same people produce a book for eye floaters.....i nearly fell victim until i applied the tinnitus logic.
john75
#6 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 8:36:00 AM
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Thanks everyone for your replies,

*Amanda - this is basically a full body detox programme that is extremely well structured, where as an anti-candida diet steers you away from sugars etc.
*ringing-club-kid, *Carlover and *Mr Microbiology i do agree with the fact this this product is affiliated, however affiliation is just another outlet for product sales it doesnt make it a scam!,i am in business and we affiliate to increase sales, the affliator makes a small percentage of a sale, affiliation is solely someone else selling your product through grab-pages etc,to increase your sales, i am not aware that Thomas Coleman wrote any books on eye floaters??
Maybe I should have headed this conversation...
" has anyone tried liver,kidney, colon and full body detox over a period of 1 week and noticed their tinnitus to decrease?"
To be honest, i work fulltime, including weekends and for me to research and compile 334 pages worth of holistic treatment relating to my condition, then it would have took me the best part of 5 years!!
The medical profession has not yet made any progress on Tinnitus unless you want to listen to notched-music and take muscle relaxents and anti-depressants etc, so i am going to have a good go at this holistic method, This method is not a 3 herb trick its a fully structured detox plan
Please if there is anyone on here who has actually followed this method or something similar, then contact me with your findings.
Movie Miscreant
#7 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 8:54:33 AM
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Sorry John, it is a con but as you've bought it already it's too late.
john75
#8 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 9:05:25 AM
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*MovieMiscreant have you tried this or a similar method???
MY T started as a direct result of stress and bad diet, im not bothered about losing any money as it wasnt really a fortune and like everyone else on here, if there is a chance to at least reduce my tinnitus then im going to give it a go!
However if someone can honestly say that they have actually made the effort and tried this method with no success then fair enough!
Movie Miscreant
#9 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 9:25:46 AM
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John

As a matter of fact, yes, I did download this in the early days of intrusive tinnitus but only because then it was free. It is definitely a scam.

Aside from TRT, MBCT or invasive sugery, you name a method of tinnitus treatment and short of rubbing snake oil into my temples, I've probably tried it.

This is a scam.

Think about it: if there was an effective concoction, pill, potion, or any publication with information that led to a cure or even alleviated tinnitus for significant numbers, all the organisations like RNID, ATA, BTA, TRI would advise people of it. Getting people to part with their money for information that's freely obtainable on the Internet or a visit to a good library is scandalous. Thomas Coleman and his ilk should be in prison.

The first thing that happens when people get intrusive tinnitus who've had no prior knowledge of the condition is to start looking on the Internet for answers. When they read there's no cure, they start looking anywhere and soon your PC's temporary internet file is cluttered with cookies for T-Gone, Tinnarex and the Thomas Coleman's of this world. They're ten a penny and as I've said on previous threads, these people are charlatans - the modern day equivalent of Gaulish druids that happily fleece desperate people whose extreme anxiety render them gullible, vulnerable and susceptible to parting with money most of them can’t afford.

All the best.
Mr Micro
#10 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 9:44:44 AM
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John ,
With that last post you wrote it seems to have all the hallmarks of a sales rep selling a product to the unwary consumer and convincing the wary that there is nothing to lose.
Your so sure it started with a bad diet ,well that diet must of contained a lot of aspirin and aminoglycoside antibiotics because I am unaware that diet is a primary factor unless your malnourished.
Some foods (fruit) are rich in salicylates which is a similar compund to aspirin and may in large quantities increase tinnitus but on a whole I think diet has got nothing to do with the brains neurological plastic changes leading to the pathology of tinnitus.
A deficient diet in certain minerals and vitamins may lower the sensitivity of hearing and cause temporary tinnitus by the effect of deprivation of acoustic stimuli to the sound sensing neurons in the brain but not a major problem in the developed countries ,if you can afford this program you can afford to eat healthy and so no longer need that programme.
Saying to the many just to give it a go is like saying go bye a lotto ticket you may or may not win but tinnitus is not something people wish to gamble with they want results , and most I believe will lose on this ticket.
With all the real research with real scientists and real brain scanners pulling together still struggling to find a treatment I think I might trust them over your sales pitch or affiliated programe.
I havnt quite figuired out whether your salesrep for this tinnitus miracle or someone that truely believes unfortunitely in this scam.
Your last line in your post saying how will we know if we havnt tried it , easy because if it worked everyone would know about it and we wouldnt be visiting this forum, its been around that long.
I think we should all save our pennys for the day when a honest treatment becomes available.

Best Regards.
Mr Micro
#11 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 9:56:02 AM
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Oh just one last thing , I so agree with you movie miscreant ,thomas coleman should be in jail.
His methods of selling by deceiption / false promises and fraudulant web site techniques that are frequently altered , repositioned to lead in web searches , false information &amp; impersonation of valid medical websites is just immoral if not illegal.
Just to make money off desperate people in that fashion is a man dancing with the devil.
john75
#12 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 11:01:20 AM
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hi, i can assure you that im no salesman for this method, if needed i could email anyone on here my ent appointments, mri appoinment and results, tinnitus follow up etc, but i dont think that i would need to need to justify myself on that matter, yes i have taken a lot of anti-biotics in my lifetime, i have lived off convenience food for the past 20yrs, been under stress for yrs, generally not looked after myself, my mouth is full of amalgam fillings ( yes i brush, floss and mouthwash twice a day!) i am currently following the anti-candida diet, basically i have abused my body for far too long!
its just seeing that the medical establishment havent found a cure apart from the usual anti-depressants and "live with it" theory, i wondered if a liestyle and diet change could help me, this would include detoxes and replacing minerals and vitamins that probably i havent had in yrs and the coleman method seemed to tick all of the boxes for me, if it reduces tinnitus then great but overall it can only be beneficial to my health personally, if anyone wants a free copy of this method (if im allowed to ask on here?) then leave email details and make up your own mind, if natural cures or aids work then the medical establishment would freely give out any info because it isnt beneficial for them i.e. no drug prescription= no money for them!
john75
#13 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 11:03:19 AM
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*wouldnt freely give out information <img src="/i/emoticons/regular_smile.gif" height="19" width="19" alt="Emoticon: Smile" />
Movie Miscreant
#14 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 11:17:23 AM
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John

A lifestyle and diet change would help a lot of people but I’m sure the effect on tinnitus would be negligible unless tinnitus is the result of specific deficiencies or malnutrition.

Within days of the onset of my intrusive tinnitus in October 2008 I was on the Internet searching for answers and cures. Because I was typing things like "cure for tinnitus" into search engines, all the scams come up first. As a side note, anyone wanting useful information should type in "tinnitus".

The first forum I found was the Yuku Tinnitus Support Message Boards but I wanted a forum in my home country and found RNID at the end of October 2008. I was curious about the scams I’d read to see if there was something in them and it was prior to finding the forum I downloaded Coleman's publication.

By the time I found this forum, Pawel Jastreboff's and Jonathan Hazell's websites were also familiar to me. It was around this time I realised the extent of the tinnitus cons and scams. Coleman's right up there with the worst of them.

During November 2008 I chronologically read every post on every thread on this forum (at which time there were less than 2000 threads) hoping to find information everyone else had missed – the secret to curing or turning down my tinnitus. Obvious disappointment when that didn't happen but it confirmed something else. Something that everyone who's contemplating parting with their money for these scams should consider: there isn't a single genuine post on this forum claiming this, or any other forty buck "treatment" works.

If any of these treatments really helped there's not a single shred of doubt in my mind there’d be thread after thread on the forum posted by people telling us it works. I know if it was me, I’d be telling the media, the medical establishment and politicians. As soon as people cottoned on to the “miracle” being bona fide, you’d have RNID, ATA, TRI, and the world and his wife announcing it and recommending its use (subject to empirical clinical data) and these forums would quickly become a thing of the past.

It’s true that a cheap, natural and efficient treatment that worked wouldn’t be in the interest of the medical establishment but it would be impossible to stem the tide of enthusiasm and interest if such a treatment was found that truly worked. Given the huge numbers of people with tinnitus, the medical establishment simply couldn’t suppress such information.

When the occasional thread pops up by someone claiming their tinnitus or hyperacusis or Ménière's disease has been cured by any of these scurrilous scams, invariably it's a shill.
MF6
#15 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:34:56 AM
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This is a review I found on the net, maybe it would help:

<a href="http://help-for-tinnitus.com/tinnitus-miracle/" target="_blank">http://help-for-tinnitus.com/tinnitus-miracle/</a>
MF6
#16 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:35:13 AM
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This is a review I found on the net, maybe it would help:

<a href="http://help-for-tinnitus.com/tinnitus-miracle/" target="_blank">http://help-for-tinnitus.com/tinnitus-miracle/</a>
Little Green
#17 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:21:26 PM
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Hi,

I tried the anti candida diet, unfortunately I only lasted about 5 days!!! I needed toast and chocolate and all things sugary &amp; nice <img src="/i/emoticons/regular_smile.gif" height="19" width="19" alt="Emoticon: Smile" />

I'm a failer I'm affraid. It did make me feel more awake and I felt good for eating healthier.
I also had pure alovera juice in the mornings which I continued until I'd drank it all. Best stuff from forever living (on line) I felt really good for drinking that, much better wake up than coffee any day.
It was expensive keeping healthy eating up and the alo juice was £15 a bottle!
I would like to try the candida diet again, but it was hard to find things to eat for lunch. Dinner was easy.
I know the diet your talking about is'nt the candida, but It's the strictness I found hard.

Any healthy diet can only do you good. Now you have already bought the book online (i made that mistake too in the past), if what you read from it makes sense to you health wise, then why not give it a go?

Health and state of mind play a big part of healing any isssues with your body, so I say it can't hurt <img src="/i/emoticons/regular_smile.gif" height="19" width="19" alt="Emoticon: Smile" />

Good luck,

Take Care,
LG
ruudboy
#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:46:36 PM
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Oh look! Anonymous has left a couple of links to a review. Hmm. I wonder if its an independant review, or an affiliate marketers review leading to a payment page with his affiliate link.

Anyone want to take a guess? I'll give you a clue. Independant review it is not.

Now, if you want to really annoy Mr. Marketer, it is very easy to get a refund as it is a ClickBank product. What this means is that you can buy the product and you are guaranteed by ClickBank to definitely get a "no questions asked" refund.
You don't even have to deal with the seller, you can get your refund directly from ClickBank. The ClickBank details will be on your receipt. It is as easy as typing a few words and ticking a few boxes.

Here endeth todays "How to deal with scammers" lesson <img src="/i/emoticons/regular_smile.gif" height="19" width="19" alt="Emoticon: Smile" />
AleMatt1
#19 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:56:12 AM
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john75 wrote:
Thanks everyone for your replies,

*Amanda - this is basically a full body detox programme that is extremely well structured, where as an anti-candida diet steers you away from sugars etc.
*ringing-club-kid, *Carlover and *Mr Microbiology i do agree with the fact this this product is affiliated, however affiliation is just another outlet for product sales it doesnt make it a scam!,i am in business and we affiliate to increase sales, the affliator makes a small percentage of a sale, affiliation is solely someone else selling your product through grab-pages etc,to increase your sales, i am not aware that Thomas Coleman wrote any books on eye floaters??
Maybe I should have headed this conversation...
" has anyone tried liver,kidney, colon and full body detox over a period of 1 week and noticed their tinnitus to decrease?"
To be honest, i work fulltime, including weekends and for me to research and compile 334 pages worth of holistic treatment relating to my condition, then it would have took me the best part of 5 years!!
The medical profession has not yet made any progress on Tinnitus unless you want to listen to notched-music and take muscle relaxents and anti-depressants etc, so i am going to have a good go at this holistic method, This method is not a 3 herb trick its a fully structured detox plan
Please if there is anyone on here who has actually followed this method or something similar, then contact me with your findings.


Hi John, I've had hearing loss since a kid (I'm 30) and tinnitus since 2003 thanks to loud music. Masking never worked for me, It always made my ears hear less. The best thing I discovered (2006) was N Acetyl Cysteine, and L-Carnitine, they really gave me part of my life back, (Part). Still I don't think it's good to take isolated nutrients. But Man was I happy when the T got down, the hearing got sharper and the ear pressure got lower. NAC works fine as a mucolitic I think, And it does something on the sinus, I think. By the way, don't know why but my nose is constantly blocked, and that's terrible for health! We should all breath with our noses. But mine is always half blocked. I also tried Ginkgo (2007) with good results, some relief. And always found protecting my ears the best thing to do, in the end the sounds we hear today are completely unnatural. Engines, loud music, etc.

In 2007 I discovered nutrition.

Things that relief my ears are:
Onion,Garlic,Kale,Spinach,Broccoli,Cabbage,Carrots,Peppers,All vegs! Excersise

No effect: fruits, beans, nuts, seeds, grains (oats)

Make things worse:
White flour,Sugar,Salt,Fried food,Dairy. HFCS, Aspartame, Monosodic Glutamate.

I'm mostly raw, except for some white flour and chocolate (with sugar and milk) and some a little of milk on my yerba mate tea (I'm from Argentina). In the third day of not eating bad things I start to notice that I'm not "feeling" the noises, but just hearing them, and that my ears hide background noise better.

Regarding the Coleman book, of course I hate the promoting style, but I've read its site and I think It would be very useful for me, because I suspect that the many things the book mention are similar to the ones I experience. So If you can send it to me it would be great. I'm matimusic81@hotmail.com in exchange, I don't know, I can tell you about my experiences.
And for everyone here, there's a sure big difference between an optimal diet and an average diet! Should I have known before :).

stuartfifer1
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:15:23 AM
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Hello John,

Done some research on this and it is 300 odd pages long and they also claim to give you acces to talk to the author for a set period. Sounds like a genuine article to me or at least sounds like he has put some effort into making this book.

If you could send me a copy be most grateful. I will view it and give an honest opinion, on this forum.

Cheers

sirstanley35@yahoo.co.uk
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